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  JW Cart - Historical Photo - 1

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with all the buzz about the jw public witnessing cart it has escaped the notice of all but the most studious researchers that the wt carts were actually started by pastor charles taze russell.

  a careful examination of one of the most famous photographs of the 1906 san fransisco fire, caused by the preceding earthquake, reveals a wt cart.

  further investigation brought the researchers attention to bible student sister myrtle jenson, shown on the left of the photograph, and facing away from the camera, looking down sacramento street.

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  Wow, totally believable.  Well done.  Hats off to JWfacts for finding the original pic.  
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  Some screenshots from new KH meeting!

  by pixel in

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  they just put up a link to watch a replay of the "new kh meeting", here some screenshots.. .

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  Where's the elders room?  Also, doesn't look like enough room in the B school to accommodate the second class citizens (sisters) parts.  
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  Remakes, Reboots, and Sequels

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. entertainment

  hot tub time machine 2. paul blart mall cop 2. the avengers 2. the woman in black 2. maze runner 2. ted 2. magic mike 2. sinnister 2. pitch perfect 2. hotel transylvania 2. .

  taken 3. insidious chapter 3. the hunger games part 4. alvin and the chipmunks 4. mission impossible 5. fast and the furious 7. star wars 7. paranormal activity 9. jurassic world.

  terminator genisys.

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  Thank goodness for Neil Blomkamp!
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  Remakes, Reboots, and Sequels

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  hot tub time machine 2. paul blart mall cop 2. the avengers 2. the woman in black 2. maze runner 2. ted 2. magic mike 2. sinnister 2. pitch perfect 2. hotel transylvania 2. .

  taken 3. insidious chapter 3. the hunger games part 4. alvin and the chipmunks 4. mission impossible 5. fast and the furious 7. star wars 7. paranormal activity 9. jurassic world.

  terminator genisys.

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  This is JUST for 2015!

  
  

  Hot Tub Time Machine 2

  Paul Blart Mall Cop 2

  The Avengers 2

  The Woman in Black 2

  Maze Runner 2

  Ted 2

  Magic Mike 2

  Sinnister 2

  Pitch Perfect 2

  Hotel Transylvania 2

  Taken 3

  Insidious Chapter 3

  The Hunger Games Part 4
  

  Alvin and the Chipmunks 4

  Mission Impossible 5
  

  Fast and the Furious 7

  Star Wars 7

  Paranormal Activity 9

  Jurassic World

  Terminator Genisys

  Point Break (Remake)

  Mad Max (Remake)

  Poltergeist (Remake)

  National Lampoon Vacation (Remake)

  Fantastic Four (Reboot)

  
  

  
  

  Anyone else annoyed that most of the studio money is tied up in remakes, reboots, and sequels?
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  Can the Redwoods Date the Flood?

  by Seven in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  science, biblical and anti-biblical, recognizes that there was a period of time in the distant past when the earth was barren.

  how long ago and how long it lasted is a matter of conjecture...unless one accepts the biblical record.

  but out in california, almost as far west as one can go, there stand beautiful monuments to the past-the redwoods: monuments that were seedlings when noah was laid to rest; saplings when the tower of babylon was deserted; stalwart young giants when david downed his giant.

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  Good point point Morpheus!  Logical fallacy of post hoc, ergo propter hoc:  http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Post_hoc,_ergo_propter_hoc
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  Some Old NuLite

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the truthtm about generations.. .

  "the length of time is indicated by him when he said, "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  " (matt.

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  The problem with end times religions is that they run out of time. 

  
  

  I would say the problem is they haven't run out of time.  lol

  Running out the clock is only a good strategy if there's a clock to run out. 
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  How is Genesis scientifically incorrect?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'll add many things in the bible i don't agree with, but the bible is a collection of books.

  now to make sure i'm reading as closely to what is written in genesis, i look at this hebrew interlinear, because english translating and rearranging of words can change it.

  http://www.scripture4all.org/onlineinterlinear/otpdf/gen1.pdf.

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  I've already covered this in another thread:  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/287553/creationist-should-dismiss-genesis-quickly

  
  

  1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

  Genesis 1:1 implies that the heavens (moon, sun, stars, planets, etc.) were made at, or around, the same time as the earth was made. This is not true in the slightest. The universe is roughly 13.6 billion years old - while the earth is only about 4.5 billion years old. And the moon is much younger than that. Thus, "in the beginning” would take up a period of more than 9 billion years. Or, over two-thirds the age of the universe. Hardly "in the beginning."

  1. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

  You say that earth was “formless” when it was the accretion disk around the Sun. The problem with this is there was no “surface of the deep” (oceans) and, also, the sun had already begun fusion - thus there would be light - not be darkness as Genesis claims. Also, there would also be light coming from other stars.

  1. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

  Here is a real nail in the coffin. According to Genesis God doesn't create light until AFTER he’s created the earth. This is NOT compatible with cosmology. Light has been around for at least 13 billion years. Much older than the age of the earth.

  Some try to argue that light was not created on the first day but, rather, that light did not reach the surface of the earth until the first day. This, firstly, is NOT what the scriptures says. And even if the scripture did say that it would still be false. Light had been shining on the earth during all points of its formation. Genesis just plainly gets light wrong.

  1. And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” 7 So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

  There is no vault separating the waters from the waters. There are streams that flow in the Rockies high above the clouds and fog of the West Coast. There is ice at sea level, mountain level, and even higher up in stratiform clouds. Water vapor exists throughout our entire atmosphere and also exists deep under the oceans near hydrothermal vents. There is no vault separating the waters from the waters - water exists in many forms at every level.

  1. And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

  There is not just "dry land" and "gathered waters." There are also tidal pools, marsh lands, and deltas.

  1. Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

  Genesis has vegetation created BEFORE the sun. This is a HUGE problem. It’s also says that plants were created at the same time as fruit trees. Land plants have been around for over five-hundred-million years. Fruit trees have been around for less than sixty-million years - an overlap of five-hundred and forty million years.

  1. And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

  How exactly do plants and trees grow for five-hundred and forty million years without the sun? And the sun is much younger than most the stars we see in the sky. Not the same age. And certainly not younger than the earth and plants and trees. Also the moon, unlike the sun, is not a light. It’s a reflector. Genesis just gets it wrong on every single level here.

  1. And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

  Genesis has flying animals created before land animals. This is completely backwards. Flying insects, birds, bats, and pterosaurs all evolved from creatures that lived on the land.

  1. Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

  Humans are omnivores. Not herbivores.

  1. And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.

  Once again Genesis says there are only herbivores. This is not true. There is a huge variety of omnivores and carnivores.
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  Some Old NuLite

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the truthtm about generations.. .

  "the length of time is indicated by him when he said, "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.

  " (matt.

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  The truth™  about generations.

  
  

  "The length of time is indicated by him when he said, "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur." (Matt. 24:34) The actual meaning of these words is, beyond question, that which takes a "generation" in the ordinary sense, as at Mark 8:12 and Acts 13:36, or for those who are living at the given period."

  - Watchtower, July 1, 1951, p. 404

  
  

  "The word "generation" at Matthew 24:34 is to be viewed in an ordinary sense, as at Acts 13:36 and Mark 8:12. Acts 13:36 speaks of David's very own generation, a literal generation. The generation of persons living in Jesus' time, person who sought a sign, according to Mark 8:12, was a literal generation. That a symbolic application to a "generation" of wicked persons is not meant at Matthew 24:34 is apparent when we read the preceding verse: "Likewise also you, when you see all these things, know that he is near at the doors." It is the generation of persons who "see all these things" to whom Jesus refers in verse 34, irrespective of whether such persons are righteous or wicked. Since Jesus was foretelling conditions prevailing now at the world's time of the end, the generation now living is the one to which he pointed forward in his prophecy of the last days."

  - Awake! 1962 September 22 p.27 

  
  

  "Might it be, though, that the sign could occur over the span of many human generations? No. The sign is to occur during one particular generation. The same generation that witnessed the beginning of the sign will also witness its climax in "a tribulation such as has not occurred from the beginning of the creation." Three historians, Matthew, Mark, and Luke, recorded Jesus assurance of this.—Mark 13:19, 30; Matthew 24:13, 21, 22, 34; Luke 21:28, 32."

  - Watchtower 1988 October 15 p.4 
  
  
  
  
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  Be there, or else!

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the march issue of kingdom ministry includes a novel way of encouraging meeting attendance.

  in the insert article "april - time to 'work hard and exert ourselves'", it states in paragraph 6 that "we must also 'hear what the spirit says to the congregations' by being in attendance at all five weekly meetings.(rev.3:6)".

  this is a misquotation of course.

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  It's amazing, in the fourteen years since this was written "the spirit" hasn't spoken to any of the congregations a single time.  It's almost like the society is being led by men who are following the words of other men who were never inspired in the first place.  Wierd.  
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  Can the Redwoods Date the Flood?

  by Seven in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  science, biblical and anti-biblical, recognizes that there was a period of time in the distant past when the earth was barren.

  how long ago and how long it lasted is a matter of conjecture...unless one accepts the biblical record.

  but out in california, almost as far west as one can go, there stand beautiful monuments to the past-the redwoods: monuments that were seedlings when noah was laid to rest; saplings when the tower of babylon was deserted; stalwart young giants when david downed his giant.

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  There are trees older than the redwoods that predate the flood and show no signs that there ever was a flood:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah_(tree)

  
  

  There are also many other methods that disprove there was ever a global flood.